Itia - Ιτιά

[niaven]

Tseligas - that is indeed the "palia itia" version that Aristopoulos is playing.

I have included various versions of Itia for everyone to listen to and it
would be very interesting for people to post their favourite version
here and to finally come up with a favourite. Comments are welcome.
I thought the final version by the student may help you in your notations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5dpIREa-88 V. Soukas (ILIOS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcwN_pf0eWc V. Soukas (ITIA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjyW9_5ruPg Vangelis Soukas (ITIA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgAOY7UfVJE Παλια Ιτια-Καρακωστεικο-Αριστοπουλος Κωστας
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRx4sdpUCMs N. Karakostas (ILIOS-1931)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uoHNzueJ4o ΙΤΙΑ-ΚΑΓΚΕΛΙ ΛΙΒΑΝΑΤΕΪΚΟ- V. ΜΠΑΤΖΗΣ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZeqDtXUL0U Βάιος Μαλλιάρας
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB_-_yW95Yc Ιτιά Ο γέρο τσέλιγκας Τασία Βέρα & Vasilopoulos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_M8WBlrlpY ΚΑΡΝΑΒΑΣ ΤΑΚΗΣ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uKciJ6jZ...abt-ut6t-K N. Pappas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4PNCV-SNM Panagiotis Plastiras Palia Itia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrMq3GZfxA ITIA ΑΝΤΩΝΗΣ ΚΥΡΙΤΣΗΣ ΠΕΤΡΟΣ ΛΟΥΚΑΣ ΧΑΛΚΙΑΣ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcBdC3k4r...abt-ut6t-K palia itia played by a student – there is hope for all of us!!

[niaven]

Hello Tseligas - I have included a song "O Yero Tselingas"in my previous post.
It is one of my favourites. Are you familiar with this Tsamiko? Do you play it?
Would you like the notes for it?

I really like listening to old recordings of demotika played by the masters. Pre 1960's there
were a handfull of "greats" that toured all over Greece and became quite famous,
The old recordings reveal the true sound of the song without the benefit of modern electronics. This is
not to say a particular version is "better."
Compare Aristopoulos playing "Palia Itia" in the tradition of Karakostas' version with the original
1931 simple studio recording played by Karakostas himself.
Clear and Crisp!

[niaven]

Of course Karakostas is playing Ilios and the intent is to show his style!!
I am searching for his original version of "Palia Itia" on youtube.

[tseligas]

Niaven, I agree. in my village in Greece I have Discs 45's that my grandfather had when he was an immigrant in Germany..
So I got many of the first recordings!!

The old sound was different indeed. That is an ice Thread to start..btw... how to reproduce the old sound..hmmm

Gerotseligas is deifinitely one of my favorites...!! You know I had couple of dance groups when I was up in Boston and we did a small sketch with gerotseligas..(I was the gerotseligas and I couldn't dance while the youth was dancing and eventually I made it..) I borrowed the idea from the dance of the sfougarades....

I do play that one. I will start another thread in favorite songs about it.!

[chitowngreek]

ive got a friend old clarinet player from loukas ,tripoleos beore 1957 ,everybody would use (DO) clarina, do to the fact that the sound would carry farther , amplification in tripolis and in the villages was unheard of ,once the amplifiers and mikes came they discovered the b flat , now the (LA) clarinet is also popular , if you pay close attention to the old recordings he can hear the male singers straining to get there voice to the upper octaves (a lot of songs were done in the scale of re or do) . fast forward to now the singers are singing from la .and sol

[tseligas]

I have read a book from Petroloukas (Can't find it now ..left it in Greece somewhere. if somebody has it let me know) and he was saying too that they preffered to play with the "κοντό" ..with the short clarinet...
They liked that sound much more!!